OptionOfT 14 hours ago

> This data was parsed from a set of 458 Excel workbooks that the DMV prepared for someone else's public records request. I received the files as a consolation prize in response to my own related records request, which I was told would cost $2,000 to fulfill otherwise.

That's very interesting. It implies that there seemingly is no central place in CA where this data is stored, otherwise there would be 1 source and 1 format.

Then again, last time I went to the DMV in CA I filled out paperwork online, only for them to print it and then manually process it. And this was 2.5 years ago.

Hizonner an hour ago

If they don't feel like they can just give anybody any plate they ask for (which indeed they probably shouldn't do), then they shouldn't be issuing custom plates at all. Stuff like this conditions people to think it's appropriate for governments to be arbiters of taste.

In an essentially irrelevant anecdote, I do always wonder how somebody a few blocks from me (not in California) managed to get "HOTWIFE".

MrFoof 15 hours ago

Not California, but recently I had "SIXSPD" denied by a state after putting the first known 6-speed manual (all were sold as dual-clutch automatics) in an enthusiast car.

I was told that abbreviations weren't allowed. That was the denial reason.

Resubmitted it, not denied yet. We'll see if it shows up in another 3-5 weeks or if I get a denial letter followed by an another application refund 4-6 weeks after that.

  • grep_name 11 hours ago

    If abbreviations aren't allowed, couldn't you just do "6SPEED"?

  • zamadatix 14 hours ago

    Like the other commenter mentioned, PD can often be interpreted as Police Department but also "speed" interpretations can be marked as drug references. Tough spot, best of luck!

  • hot_topic 14 hours ago

    As someone who lives in Seattle it definitely sounds like six something Seattle police department

chmod775 14 hours ago

> OMW2EYL,3,PERSONAL QUOTE,ON MY WAY TO END YOUR LIFE,N

How did they figure that one. If that's what it's supposed to mean, that reviewer is good...

  • kylecazar 14 hours ago

    Some of the reasons are nuts, like 'xyz is a slur in Tagalog'.

    • dymk 12 hours ago

      The person qualified to review with that level of detail must have some really interesting party tricks

  • AStonesThrow 14 hours ago

    I must commend CA DMV for their wise leverage of UrbanDictionary.com, which is cited over 170 times in that file.

    And I must wonder about how reliable they consider UD to be, given that UD is 100% user-generated content. Is it possible to tank a perfectly innocent license plate if someone gins up a misleading UD entry?

    Signed,

    Don Palabros

    • Incipient 13 hours ago

      Licence plates are a great example where detection "algorithms" be overzealous in returning false positives over false negatives. As someone had above, if they reject SIXSPD and won't allow it, then just try something else. If your life is materially impacted by by a licence plate, it's 'long hard look' time.

      (I was going to make a specificity/selectively comment but I don't think that applies here, please correct me otherwise?)

savrajsingh 14 hours ago

SEVAK13,,"SEVAK = SERVANT, 13 = THERA = YOUR, IN PUNJABI THIS MEANS ""GOD, I AM YOUR SERVANT.""","13, GANG REFERENCE",N

Yes, Sevak is servant and the number 13 in Punjabi is "tera" which also means "yours".

Unfortunately in California the number 13 is a GANG REFERENCE. lol. Probably a free-speech argument to be made here?

no_wizard 15 hours ago

Shame you can’t get ASSMAN

Proctologists everywhere mourn the lost opportunity

Gigachad 14 hours ago

Some of these rejections are so lame. I can’t see any good reasons that “gaymer” or “air$oft” were rejected.

Most of them are sex jokes or racist so fair enough, but the rejections seem way too sensitive for the others.

  • jsheard 14 hours ago

    This guy was robbed

    > TUNA FSH

    > I'M A PROFESSIONAL FISHERMAN AND I FISH FOR TUNA ALL OVER THE WORLD

    > DMV: I GOOGLED HIM, HE IS AND HE DOES

    > DENIED

    • NewJazz 14 hours ago

      There must be a blanket policy that they have to follow for some words.

      • onionisafruit 11 hours ago

        or they’re saving it for a frank zappa fan

  • yosito 14 hours ago

    Some of these are ridiculous. QVO ESE was denied because there's a gang that starts with the letter S. "Que hubo ese?" in Spanish is like saying "What's up dude?", it's not even as gang related as "What's up g?".

  • ryukoposting 11 hours ago

    My favorite is

    > BJS4DDS,1,MY INITIALS AND MY WIFE INITIALS,BLOW JOBS FOR DENTAL WORK… CUSTOMER IS BRIAN J SAMUELS,N

  • robhlt 14 hours ago

    "GAYMUR" was actually granted, it has a "Y" in the last column. Everything in the csv was just sent for extra review, not all of them were rejected.

  • zamadatix 14 hours ago

    One of the comments on a gay related ones contained the note "my instructions are to run any gay or lesbian plate by the review board, but as long as its positive it is acceptable". Sounds like more work to deal with those ones, even if it seems alright, which could contribute to the denials.

lisper 15 hours ago

I recently got the California TEKWZRD plate :-)

burnt-resistor 14 hours ago

I don't understand why REDROCK was so offensive. There's a coffee shop in Mountain View with that name.

  • robhlt 14 hours ago

    That row has a "Y" in the last column so it was actually granted after the extra review. Most entries in the csv were rejected, but a few like this one were eventually allowed it looks like.

    • burnt-resistor 7 hours ago

      That data is hard to consume. It needs a website grid browser to annotate it.

everybodyknows 14 hours ago

Notable by omission, as seen in the wild some decades ago, on a VW "Rabbit": FKSLK12

josephcsible 14 hours ago

Talk about power tripping bureaucrats. Just glancing at a few:

> H84BY4Z,7,"I HATE 4X4 VEHICLES. SATIRE, AS I WILL BE PUTTING THIS PLATE ON A 4 WHEEL DRIVE TRUCK",HATE,N

> SAABNUT,1,CRAZZY ABOUT SAAB BRAND CARS,SAAB NUT.. SAAB IS A CAR NUT CAN BE SEXUAL OR CAN MEAN CRAZY,N

> PZA TACO,1,MY TWO FAVORITE THINGS PIZZA AND TACOS,TACO,N

> AIRS$FT,2,AIRSOFT SPORT WE LOVE,AIRSOFT SHOOTING,N

> 3&14 PI,4,THE FIRST 3 DIGITS OF PI,PIE 14 GANG REFERENCE,N

> CHRG4PS,1,CHARGE FOR PEACE,LOOKS LIKE CHARGE FOR PS… NOT SURE WHAT PS MEANS,N

> PINK 64,1,THE CAR IS A 1964 VW BUG,PINK=VAGINA. HAS A 64 VW ON ANI,N

> KIKI$77,1,NAME AND SOFTBALL NUMBER,"kiki=Tagalog, means vagina",N

> MFC,3,"'MFC' IS AN ABBREVIATION FOR 'MOTHERWELL FOOTBALL CLUB' A PREMIERE LEAGUE SOCCER TEAM LOCATED IN MY HOMETOWN OF MOTHERWELL, SCOTLAND.",MFC motherfuck? Motherwell IS a Scottish Football Club,N

> CAT TAX,1,"I WANT A LICENSE PLATE WITH ""CAT"" ON IT, AND I FIGURED A CUSTOM PLATE CAUSES ME TO PAY MORE IN TAXES... SO I AM PAYING THE CAT TAX.",CAT TAX CAT SLANG FOR VAGINA,N

Do any of those rejections seem reasonable to anyone else? They all seem insane to me.

  • alexjmu 14 hours ago

    Eh, they're consistent at least.

    I've seen many rejections for "HATE", any word that could be considered a sexual euphemism (TACO), anything that could be construed as a gang reference, and often anything that the reviewer doesn't understand that is not explained by the submission ("NOT SURE WHAT PS MEANS"). The latter feels paranoid, but it's probably justified.

    • AnnikaL 12 hours ago

      The submission does explain PS, though! They said it means "peace" as in "charge for peace".

  • 01HNNWZ0MV43FF 9 hours ago

    MFC STANDS FOR MICROSOFT FOUNDATION CLASSES, REJECTED, N

ipsum2 15 hours ago

For those who like doomscrolling, there's a twitter bot for this: https://x.com/ca_dmv_bot2. Seems like 88 is automatically denied because of Hitler, not sure what they do about people born in that year.

  • haiku2077 14 hours ago

    There's one approved in there because the car was made in 1988.

  • userbinator 14 hours ago

    Chinese also like to use the digit 8 as it's a lucky number in their culture.

  • stefan_ 15 hours ago

    They are rejecting a lot of numbers..

    13 GANG REFERENCE

    14 = GANG NUMBER

    PULLED FOR 69

    • NewJazz 15 hours ago

      Also they rejected PZA TACO (pizza taco) because taco can be slang for pussy. What a job to decide this stuff lol.

silisili 14 hours ago

> DAVES88,2,DAVES 1988 TOYOTA,88 HITLER REFRENCE,N

Don't get me wrong, I know some weird parts of the internet use 88 that way.

But c'mon, this is pretty weak, I'd venture 95% of people (if not more) don't even know that reference. Is everyone born in 1988 prevented from using their birth year these days, too?

  • josephcsible 14 hours ago

    > Is everyone born in 1988 prevented from using their birth year these days, too?

    Yes, they are:

    > BLK88BZ,2,NICKNAME AND BIRTH YEAR,88-HITLER. BIRTH YEAR VERIFIED AS '88,N

    > 28GSV88,2,IMPORTANT DATE.,"88=HATE SYMBOL, NO 88 CAR ON ANI. 28 IS BIRTHDATE AND 1988 IS YEAR",N

    > AMK 88,2,INITIALS AND YEAR OF BIRTH,"88=hate symbol, no 88 car. was born in 88",N

    > 88DURAN,2,YEAR OF MY BIRTH AND LAST NAME.,88-HITLER. BIRTH YEAR CONFIRMED AS 1988,N

    > 6TTT88,2,BIRTHDAY AND INITIALS,88-HITLER. BIRTH YEAR CONFIRMED AS 1988,N

    > 88 MAR,7,MY BIRTH YEAR AND MONTH,88-HITLER. BIRTH MONTH AND YEAR CONFIRMED.,N

    > 88HENRY,7,YEAR OF BIRTH AND LAST NAME,88-HITLER. BIRTH YEAR CONFIRMED,N

    In case it's not clear, in all of the above applications, the DMV confirmed the person was really born in 1988 and denied the plate anyway.

    • NewJazz 14 hours ago

      Must be some blanket policy they have to follow.

  • ziml77 14 hours ago

    I think they're likely being very conservative about what they issue, lest someone see the plate, be offended from misunderstanding it, and then get people riled up about how the state is supporting hate or obscenities.

    • silisili 10 hours ago

      Then I'm immediately curious if they issue randomized plates containing these things, like '88'.

      It feels like they would, but maybe I'm wrong. But it would be hilarious if they did.

  • JumpCrisscross 14 hours ago

    …dare I ask what the 88 means?

    • gnabgib 14 hours ago

      H is the 8th letter of the alphabet.. the initials of a former greeting.

      • cheschire 14 hours ago

        It is also coincidentally the prefix for all license plates in the city of/region around Hamburg, as HH stands for Hansestadt Hamburg.

        • _blk 11 hours ago

          Haha, good one. So in California you can say whatever neonazi shizz you like and buy Hitler's books because of the 1st ammendent but you can't have an 88 on your state issued vanity license plate (what about randomly issued ones?) But in Germany where all that is forbidden by law you have the short form of the hitler salute on a whole city's plates. Looks like no one died from those in German so can we just reinstate the 1st on license plates California and save a few millions in review costs? It's not like things were fast at the DMV anyways..

    • nkurz 14 hours ago

      Most of the time it means that they are putting the plate on a 1988 vehicle or that they were born in 1988. But it's being denied because H is the 8th letter of the alphabet, and thus 88 might be construed as HH, which might be construed as Heil Hitler: https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/88. In some rare cases it might even be intended to have this meaning.

      • adzm 14 hours ago

        > In some rare cases it might even be intended to have this meaning.

        From experience moderating large Internet communities, I'd say that is much less rare than I wish it was.

andoando 14 hours ago

I filed for "YUUUGE" in the Trump era for my mini cooper, saying it was ironic, referencing the cooper's small size and it got denied it for inappropriate sexual reference.

  • toast0 14 hours ago

    My friend, Big Dave, is at least 6'6" and a body builder in addition to being a computer operator. He applied for GR8BIGD, and was denied; but got it on appeal because he's actually great big d(ave).

  • danielodievich 12 hours ago

    I've had my mini since 2023, license plate MINIKIN, which is a real word meaning something small and precious and dainty. Fits it perfectly. There is a twin in TX that a friend saw, albeit of a different color.

davchana 14 hours ago

The latest version of this request form in DMV CA doesn't even ask for meaning of the plate/phrase now.

stackedinserter 14 hours ago

I would be happy to talk to the person that does/did this stupid job.

behnamoh 15 hours ago

where do we draw the line? I think people should be able to choose any license plate they want, just like they can choose any name they wish.

in general, I'm all for removing subjectivity.

  • Barbing 15 hours ago

    Uncomfortable with K1LLJ3W & don’t (deeply) need to see GOATSE in the neighbor’s driveway every morning.

    Driving’s a privilege they tell us, makes sense they’d restrict plates based on sensibilities of the average taxpayer.

    Meanwhile offensive, say, t-shirts might be seen on the sidewalk but perhaps not in around your usual hangouts as a boring, easily offended person (I kid!)

    (Not married to these opinions, LMK of any obvious misses here)

    • JumpCrisscross 14 hours ago

      > Uncomfortable with K1LLJ3W & don’t (deeply) need to see GOATSE in the neighbor’s driveway every morning

      Counterpoint: I’d give zero shits about their noise complaints or parking preferences going forward, and I suspect my town’s police would be fine with that.

      • dymk 12 hours ago

        Your Jewish neighbors might not feel quite as nonchalant

    • twodave 14 hours ago

      I feel like if you try and file a police report because your car with one of those plates got vandalized, they'd take their sweet time trying to follow up on it... just saying :)

    • greenavocado 14 hours ago

      The reasons given for other rejections are so stupid and far-fetched. Fourteen and eighty eight are Hitler related? Even if true, less than 0.1% of all Americans would recognize such a reference.

      Others are rejected for AREA CODE reason? WTF?

      This is extreme government overreach.

      • margalabargala 13 hours ago

        14 and 88 are widely used as neonazi dog whistles.

  • danpalmer 14 hours ago

    > in general, I'm all for removing subjectivity

    I usually appreciate objectivity, but in human processes it rarely works. There are always edge cases. Write down all the rules for number plates and someone will find a way to write an offensive one, or language will change and the policy won't have caught up. You need human subjectivity in the loop as a check.

    This is where "smart" contracts fell down, the pitch was having truly objective and automated contracts, which were supposed to be better than legal contracts because of those properties. But what we actually got was contracts where finding a loophole meant you could screw over the other party and be contractually guaranteed to get away with it. The real benefit of a legal contract is being able to go to court and litigate it and theoretically come out with a fair result. That's not always possible, but it is much more likely than with "smart" contracts.

    • behnamoh 14 hours ago

      > Write down all the rules for number plates and someone will find a way to write an offensive one, or language will change and the policy won't have caught up. You need human subjectivity in the loop as a check.

      That's not what I meant with subjectivity. I want objective rules, like "license place should be 6 alphanumeric letters".

      as soon as you say "it shouldn't be offensive to the average citizen", you're in the subjectivity realm.

      • danpalmer 9 hours ago

        Ok, but you'd agree that we shouldn't allow, say, an offensive word for a specific race to be used right? Because that would be actively harmful to many people.

        So we make a rule saying "you can't use word X". So someone submits a plate that is X but... with a number replacing a letter. It's not against the rules, but it's still actively harmful because a human subjectively reads it as the banned word. So you expand the rule, but then language changes, etc etc. Surely you need to have a subjective judgement process because the interpretation/harm is subjective?

        I'll grant you that finding the right balance here, or where the line is, is a hard problem. This list to me however shows that it can be achieved in a reasonable way.

        Alternatively if you think that people should be allowed to use widely recognised, highly derogatory words for other people as number plates, that rules like being 6 characters is strictly sufficient, then I think we disagree too much to resolve.

  • dymk 14 hours ago

    if you're for removing subjectivity, then you should be calling for them to remove the option for a vanity plate entirely

    • hollerith 14 hours ago

      I prefer taxes on purchases whose main use is status competition (e.g., a yacht, a dress or a pair of shoes that costs more than $1000) over other kinds of taxes, and I suspect that vanity license plates are mainly purchased for their effects on status (and a full 100% of the purchase price goes to the taxing authority, which is nice).

      • NewJazz 14 hours ago

        Yeah but you have to have someone review them which costs some money.

  • InitialLastName 14 hours ago

    You can write anything you like on your car. You can't force the state to endorse any identification you'd like for it. Seems like a pretty clear line.

  • theoreticalmal 15 hours ago

    I also don’t know exactly where to draw the line, but I can think of dozens of plates I wouldn’t want my kids reading out in the world

  • userbinator 14 hours ago

    I see far more obscene bumper stickers, which AFAIK are protected by 1A, so you can exercise your right there.

    Then again, this is California...

  • threeseed 15 hours ago

    You can't choose any name you wish in any country.

    For example in US, Adolf Hitler and Jesus Christ are banned names.