The standard 80 hour weeks at Musk's companies are incompatible with human life. It's very, very disappointing to see Musk publicly complain about falling birth rates but fail to recognize the connection between overtaxed employees and poor fertility.
Edit: He said he's resigning because he's had to spend too much time away from family, implying that the work-life balance at Tesla has been very bad.
I work the longest hours of anyone I know (friends implore me to stop). I'm one of the first cars in the garage, one of the last ones out. Start at 8, home at 8, 15 minute lunch, 2 hours at night with overseas team. A few hours cram-work Sunday night. 3-5 hours of sleep M-F (5.5 hours is a rare luxury). These numbers are accurate and consistent every week for last 12 months.
It's still not 80 hours a week.
So I get a bit miffed when people cry "Wah, we all work 80-hour weeks!" No, I don't think so.
You typically don't have a concept of weekend/not-weekend when you're working 80+ hours.
I've done periods of what I call "sleep/work", where I wake up with my laptop next to my head, immediately start working, and work all day: definitely not leaving my house and usually only even leaving the room to grab deliveries or use the restroom. I'd work until I literally couldn't stay awake, with the laptop next to my head and ready for when I wake up to continue. So literally for entire days I'll have done nothing but sleep and work, with even eating being done while working.
You can certainly do it, but it's an (unproductive) expression of mental illness that will additionally worsen every facet of your existence in short order. Elon's definitely mentally ill too: either for doing it regularly or being enough of a sociopath to claim that others should do it on his behalf.
Sure, I believe that, but my real point is: for how long did you sustain that sleep/work mode? Did you go a year working 80+ hours, every single week?
Because what I see is people do one ultra-crunch week, and then shout "OMG I work 80-hour weeks!" as if it was the normal occurrence, when the reality is they're working ~50hrs on average.
Hey, Musk, you’re probably going to read this thread. Have you considered leaving a positive legacy behind yourself? Do something like Ford and redefine the working time to the benefit of people?
Interesting timing with the supposed Robotaxi launch later this month
The standard 80 hour weeks at Musk's companies are incompatible with human life. It's very, very disappointing to see Musk publicly complain about falling birth rates but fail to recognize the connection between overtaxed employees and poor fertility.
Edit: He said he's resigning because he's had to spend too much time away from family, implying that the work-life balance at Tesla has been very bad.
I wouldn’t overthink it. People like Musk do not believe in truth.
I work the longest hours of anyone I know (friends implore me to stop). I'm one of the first cars in the garage, one of the last ones out. Start at 8, home at 8, 15 minute lunch, 2 hours at night with overseas team. A few hours cram-work Sunday night. 3-5 hours of sleep M-F (5.5 hours is a rare luxury). These numbers are accurate and consistent every week for last 12 months.
It's still not 80 hours a week.
So I get a bit miffed when people cry "Wah, we all work 80-hour weeks!" No, I don't think so.
It's easier if you don't have days off.
Why?
> Start at 8.
Nice of you to finally join us there, buddy. Thought you weren't coming in today.
Ha!!
You typically don't have a concept of weekend/not-weekend when you're working 80+ hours.
I've done periods of what I call "sleep/work", where I wake up with my laptop next to my head, immediately start working, and work all day: definitely not leaving my house and usually only even leaving the room to grab deliveries or use the restroom. I'd work until I literally couldn't stay awake, with the laptop next to my head and ready for when I wake up to continue. So literally for entire days I'll have done nothing but sleep and work, with even eating being done while working.
You can certainly do it, but it's an (unproductive) expression of mental illness that will additionally worsen every facet of your existence in short order. Elon's definitely mentally ill too: either for doing it regularly or being enough of a sociopath to claim that others should do it on his behalf.
Sure, I believe that, but my real point is: for how long did you sustain that sleep/work mode? Did you go a year working 80+ hours, every single week?
Because what I see is people do one ultra-crunch week, and then shout "OMG I work 80-hour weeks!" as if it was the normal occurrence, when the reality is they're working ~50hrs on average.
He believes that he also works 80 hours a week.
Easily true if you include all the content he is constantly producing for X
He also believes that he's a "world class Diablo player", which is of course bullshit.
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Musk thinks he works 80 hr weeks.
He counts getting high and browsing the internet as work.
Being the best Diablo player in the world is hard work.
He’s like the opposite of Ford.
Hey, Musk, you’re probably going to read this thread. Have you considered leaving a positive legacy behind yourself? Do something like Ford and redefine the working time to the benefit of people?
Until we prioritize quality (and good amount sleep for everyone) over quantity, not much is going to change.